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Friday, July 11, 2008

Gun Control in North Carolina: the National Database

The Democrat-controlled North Carolina state senate overwhelmingly passed legislation requiring that anyone in the state who by law has been committed to a mental health facility will have their name entered into a national database to prevent them from buying a firearm.

As many predicted when a national bill was introduced in the Congress that had the backing of not only the NRA but self-avowed gun-grabbers such as Carolyn McCarthy, John Conyers, Charles Rangel, Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, Harry Reid, Dianne Feinstein, and Barbara Boxer, the bill is, indeed, leading to wholesale banning of firearms ownership for life based upon a person's medical diagnosis.

North Carolina is proof positive that the so-called 'nay-sayers' and 'NRA bashers' such as the GOA and the JPFO were 100% correct on this issue.

I maintained all along that despite my general and longtime support for the NRA, they got this one DEAD WRONG.

Thus, in North Carolina, if you ever go to the doctor with depression so severe that you have suicidal thoughts and have to be placed in a mental facility, you are banned from owning firearms for life. If you are a U.S. war veteran who served your country and because of post-traumatic stress syndrome your depression and anxiety are so overwhelming that you have to be hospitalized due to your fleeting desire to die, sorry, bud, but you will never be able to own a firearm again. The 'fleeting desire to die' is referred to in medical circles as passive suicidal-homicidal ideation.

And not only that, but your name will be entered into the dreaded national database where you will automatically recognized as 'too nutty to own a gun.'

It is a big mistake to assume upon reading the legislation that 'they are not talking about average citizens but about certified nutcases.' All it takes for an average citizen to be considered a danger to themselves or others is for a doctor to diagnose severe depression, which always involves thoughts of suicide, or bipolar disorder with suicidal ideation (and, by the way, in medical lingo there is no such thing as 'suicidal ideation' apart from 'homicidal ideation'...the two are described as one thing, i.e., 'suicidal-homicidal ideation').

The most severely-afflicted of these patients are then forcibly committed to hospitalization if they do not commit themselves voluntarily.

And this is why legislation such as the bill in North Carolina is a danger to the rights of citizens.

In addition, there may be HIPPA (Health Information Portability and Privacy Act) violations involved. Ever since the 1998 Congress passed privacy legislation protecting citizens' medical history, the medical community has understood that these matters are extremely private or else the offending parties could not only be sued by individual citizens but hauled to court by the U.S. Government and heavily fined.

Mental health issues have always been understood to contain inherent privacy safeguards due to the sensitivity of such diagnoses. But now the names of these poor souls will be entered into a national database, along with their complete mental health history.

In the name of preventing these persons from exercising their Constitutional rights, their privacy will be thrown under the bus.

And what about the Heller decision? It did absolutely nothing to prevent these types of government violations of citizens' rights.

The mental health advocacy groups should be up in arms over this one, but where are they?

For complete information about the North Carolina bill, click HERE

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Perhaps even more frightening is the chilling affect this will have on access to medical help.

I know that I will never go to a doctor or shrink for depression problems. I will never admit to a doctor that a prescribed medication is causing depression.

There is a real danger here that people who could use some help will forego it and become a danger to themselves or others.

How about a little self-fulfilling prophecy?

Welshman said...

Yes, you are right. I fully expect that from now on people will avoid doctors and hospitals if there is the slightest hint of severe depression, bipolar disorder, post-traumatic stress, etc., and turn to self-medicating instead, such as with excessive alcohol consumption.

Kent McManigal said...

So, how long until the desire to own a gun is deemed to be a mental problem?

Welshman said...

An excellent question, Kent, and one which the old Soviet Union, the Third Reicht, and modern totalitarian regimes such as Cuba answer by saying, "Anything the citizen-slaves do that is not approved by the government can be deemed by decree to be a 'mental disorder' for which a long term of hospitalization in an insane assylum is rquiured."

Once the statists/collectivists within our own government succeed in creating this massive national database of names of citizens with mental disorders, thus barring them from purchasing firearms, then the next step would be labeling ALL of us 'gun types' as crazy.

In fact, they are already doing it on editorial pages in the mainstream media throughout the country.

Anonymous said...

Sorry guys, I just can't work up the energy at this late date to get on "i got the red ass" bandwagon. I was warning about shit like this more than a dozen years ago. I was called paranoid, tin-foil hat wearing, conspiracy nut, etc. You should have listened then. Editorial "you". I am now too damn tired to listen to lamentations of occurrences that were foreseen but not believed because of their uncomfortability.

I feel the same way you do about it. I just know I will stand alone, because you will be too slow to believe. So, I don't have the red ass, I just got a bad case of "No shit, who could have seen this coming?", tongue very firmly planted in cheek.


When you can't go after the tools anymore, you go after the people who might have or use them. Declaring them unqualified simplifies the hell out of the problem. You don't have to worry about types of weapons, accouterments, or any damn thing else, except continuously expanding the reasons for denial of the most people possible.

Welshman said...

SA, I fully understand the sense of hopelessness that comes from sounding a warning to deaf ears.

Although I was aware of the problem as you were over a dozen years ago, I was not in a position to do much about it outside my reletively small circle of influence. I did the best I could at the time, but even I recognize it was not enough.

And even within that circle I was greeted with blank stares, shock and dismay, and 'how dare you introduce anything negative into our euphoria over an explosively growing economy!'

But I can't give up unless my mind and body become so infirm that I can't do it anymore.

And thanks, SA, for your very poignant words. We face very dark days in this country.